吵架實記1

某人：For me, the line is support integrity of China and support Chinese people. It's perfectly fine to be anti-CCP, but, if you cross the line, you are anti-China.

我： Isn't the root problem this "integrity of China" thing?
我： Let's just use Tibet as an example and consider this thought experiment. If a referendum is conducted in a proper way (including all Hans and any other people living on that land, and without external power affecting people's decision) and people in that area want to be its own country, do you think it is okay to let them be
independent?

某人： If the vote involves all people in PRC and ROC and result states majority accepts a separate independent Tibet, yes. Same for Taiwan. If all people in PRC and ROC get to vote for Taiwan's independence, yes.

我：This is not my view, sorry, and I would argue it's actually more like
a western thought, not what the deep spirit I learned from Chinese
culture.

I think a big difference between the western culture and the Chinese
culture, is that Chinese has the virtue of respecting different
culture and races. I read the book about Ming dynasty's history, and
see the following paragraph saying Zhen He led a navel fleet to India,
and impressed the local king so much with the abundance and culture
China has, and the king actually went to China and decided to die
there, while 60 years later when the Portuguese arrived India, they
just set up a monument claiming it is now their land, disregarding how
the local people think.

Chinese's military power may be sufficient to conquer Korea, Vietnam,
and many surrounding countries in the past, but China seldom tried
that at all (and emperors who are known for starting wars and gaining
new lands are usually considered negative). I think it shows both a
high self-confidence, and also the virtue of respecting how the world
runs on its own way (this is my own interpretation of "天"). I do wish
we can continue such culture. As you can see, if China is really a
great country, why would Tibet or Taiwan ever wants to go independent?

As a Taiwanese, I personally don't mind uniting with China and I think
it may even be a great thing to be one country again. The part that
bugged me the most is I do NOT feel the respect from the Chinese
government and some Chinese people I talk to, who keeps thinking if
they allow us to leave then we will go independent the next day. I
can tell you if that's true it's only because the disrespect that has
been shown for years (and your view is certainly a root of it). If
the Chinese government truly respect that Taiwan is now an independent
political power and treat Taiwan equally with other countries, it is
all possible that one day Taiwanese people would love to unite with
China (just see the example of East/West Germany).

I hope this explains my view well enough.

當然這段戰文還沒有結束，我還在考慮要不要把剩下的都貼出來 XD